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Drax the Legend

Member Since: Thu Nov 05, 2009
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zvelf

Member Since: Sat May 17, 2008
Subj: All his actions concerning the...
Posted: Sat Apr 27, 2019 at 10:03:34 pm EDT (Viewed 469 times)
Reply Subj: Re: Well, since you had...
Posted: Sat Apr 27, 2019 at 05:00:17 pm EDT (Viewed 506 times)



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    Not all his actions. As Brienne pointed out, he helped her toward keeping her own oath to Catelyn and saved Brienne from the bear when he didn't have to. He betrayed Tywin and Cersei by freeing Tyrion, and his breaking his oath to kill the Mad King comes with a huge caveat.


..."I promised to fight for the living" thing, I meant...

There's just no excuse for not bringing an army with him - none! Judge Bronn woulda ripped him apart: "You're the commander, not a damn infantryman!"

You even made Daenerys' argument there with your examples:
-Why did you break your oath and kill my father, Kingslayer?
-To prevent him from destroying King's Landing and killing scores of innocents.
-Don't you find the stakes of our current predicament of similar gravity?
-I do, which is why I'm here.
-And why exactly did you not extent the same courtesy to your sister and march the Crown armies here to actually try and increase our odds at surviving this?
-Err...
-I rest my case...

That would have been an extreme act, especially since his true reason for wanting to fight is most probably Cersei and their child, but that's just the thing - if he really wanted to protect Cersei, he would have defied her to protect her from her own self! Again, he could just have tried to get as many of his own army, the Lannisters, and that would have been enough proof that he was there to help them in earnest.

I don't know, maybe I have it all wrong, maybe Jaime is not officially the leader of the Lannisters. I read that, in the books, Kevan names Cersei, because Jaime's in Tommen's Kingsguard, but Tyrion is also staking a claim. Thing is, the show is past that point and Jaime is not in the Kingsguard anymore. Didn't Cersei place him at the head, at least of their armies? And didn't Jaime convince the Tarlys to basically betray their side? So even in the worst case scenario, where he can't actually command anyone to follow him, if a guy like Jaime believes the fate of Westeros rests on defeating the Walkers, he could definitely get the ear of various Houses and convince some to commit troops to the cause, even against Cersei's wishes. Heck, he could probably get plain officers and soldiers to follow him against anyone's wishes, especially those belonging to the Lannisters and their vassals, who most assuredly value him over Cersei.


Drax the Legend, Captain of the Fist, The Starwalker, The Jade Slayer


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